﻿{"id":21065,"date":"2024-08-11T16:17:12","date_gmt":"2024-08-11T15:17:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/testanonpertinente.net\/?p=21065"},"modified":"2024-08-11T16:17:19","modified_gmt":"2024-08-11T15:17:19","slug":"21065","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/testanonpertinente.net\/?p=21065","title":{"rendered":"comparaison, essentialisme, islam, orientalisme, pr\u00e9position, shakespeare (Sa\u00efd, L\u2019Orientalisme)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Que signi\u00adfie \u00ab&nbsp;dif\u00adf\u00e9\u00adrence&nbsp;\u00bb quand la pr\u00e9\u00adpo\u00adsi\u00adtion \u00ab&nbsp;avec&nbsp;\u00bb a tota\u00adle\u00adment dis\u00adpa\u00adru&nbsp;? Est-ce que l\u2019on ne nous demande pas, une fois de plus, d\u2019inspecter le musul\u00adman orien\u00adtal comme si son monde \u2014 \u00ab&nbsp;\u00e0 la dif\u00adf\u00e9\u00adrence&nbsp;\u00bb du n\u00f4tre \u2014 n\u2019avait jamais d\u00e9pas\u00ads\u00e9 le sep\u00adti\u00e8me si\u00e8cle&nbsp;? Quant \u00e0 l\u2019islam lui-m\u00eame, bien qu\u2019il en ait une connais\u00adsance d\u2019une grande com\u00adplexi\u00adt\u00e9, et d\u2019ailleurs magis\u00adtrale, pour\u00adquoi Gibb doit-il le consi\u00add\u00e9\u00adrer avec cette hos\u00adti\u00adli\u00adt\u00e9 impla\u00adcable&nbsp;? Si l\u2019islam est tar\u00e9 d\u00e8s le d\u00e9part du fait de ses infir\u00admi\u00adt\u00e9s per\u00adma\u00adnentes, l\u2019orientaliste s\u2019opposera \u00e0 toute ten\u00adta\u00adtive isla\u00admique de r\u00e9for\u00admer l\u2019islam parce que, d\u2019apr\u00e8s lui, la r\u00e9forme est une tra\u00adhi\u00adson de l\u2019islam&nbsp;: voi\u00adl\u00e0 exac\u00adte\u00adment la th\u00e8se de Gibb. Comment un Oriental peut-il se glis\u00adser hors de ces cha\u00eenes dans le monde moderne, si ce n\u2019est en r\u00e9p\u00e9\u00adtant les paroles du Fou dans <em>le Roi Lear<\/em>&nbsp;: <em>\u00ab&nbsp;They\u2019ll have me whipp\u2019d for spea\u00adking true, thou\u2019lt have me whipp\u2019d for lying&nbsp;; and some\u00adtimes I am whipp\u2019d for hol\u00adding my peace.&nbsp;\u00bb<\/em> (\u00ab&nbsp;Elles veulent me faire fouet\u00adter si je dis vrai&nbsp;; toi tu veux me faire fouet\u00adter si je mens. Et par\u00adfois je suis fouet\u00adt\u00e9 parce que je garde le silence.&nbsp;\u00bb)<\/p>\n<div class=\"langue-originale\">\n<p>What is the mea\u00adning of \u201cdif\u00adfe\u00adrence\u201d when the pre\u00adpo\u00adsi\u00adtion \u201cfrom\u201d has drop\u00adped from sight alto\u00adge\u00adther&nbsp;? Are we not once again being asked to ins\u00adpect the Oriental Muslim as if his world, unlike ours\u2014\u201cdifferently\u201d from it\u2014had never ven\u00adtu\u00adred beyond the seventh cen\u00adtu\u00adry&nbsp;? As for modern Islam itself, des\u00adpite the com\u00adplexi\u00adties of his other\u00adwise magis\u00adte\u00adrial unders\u00adtan\u00adding of it, why must it be regar\u00added with so impla\u00adcable a hos\u00adti\u00adli\u00adty as Gibb\u2019s&nbsp;? If Islam is fla\u00adwed from the start by vir\u00adtue of its per\u00adma\u00adnent disa\u00adbi\u00adli\u00adties, the Orientalist will find him\u00adself oppo\u00adsing any Islamic attempts to reform Islam, because, accor\u00adding to his views, reform is a betrayal of Islam&nbsp;: this is exact\u00adly Gibb\u2019s argu\u00adment. How can an Oriental slip out from these manacles into the modern world except by repea\u00adting with the Fool in <em>King Lear<\/em>, \u201cThey\u2019ll have me whipp\u2019d for spea\u00adking true, thou\u2019lt have me whipp\u2019d for lying&nbsp;; and some\u00adtimes I am whipp\u2019d for hol\u00adding my&nbsp;peace.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Que signi\u00adfie \u00ab&nbsp;dif\u00adf\u00e9\u00adrence&nbsp;\u00bb quand la pr\u00e9\u00adpo\u00adsi\u00adtion \u00ab&nbsp;avec&nbsp;\u00bb a tota\u00adle\u00adment dis\u00adpa\u00adru&nbsp;? Est-ce que l\u2019on ne nous demande pas, une fois de plus, d\u2019inspecter le musul\u00adman orien\u00adtal comme si son monde \u2014 \u00ab&nbsp;\u00e0 la dif\u00adf\u00e9\u00adrence&nbsp;\u00bb du n\u00f4tre \u2014 n\u2019avait jamais d\u00e9pas\u00ads\u00e9 le sep\u00adti\u00e8me si\u00e8cle&nbsp;? Quant \u00e0 l\u2019islam lui-m\u00eame, bien qu\u2019il en ait une connais\u00adsance d\u2019une grande complexit\u00e9,&nbsp;[\u2026]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"quote","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"wp_typography_post_enhancements_disabled":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[142,634,742,2901,2322,2930],"class_list":["post-21065","post","type-post","status-publish","format-quote","hentry","category-non-classe","tag-comparaison","tag-essentialisme","tag-islam","tag-orientalisme","tag-preposition","tag-shakespeare","post_format-post-format-quote"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/testanonpertinente.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21065","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/testanonpertinente.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/testanonpertinente.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/testanonpertinente.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/testanonpertinente.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=21065"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/testanonpertinente.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21065\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/testanonpertinente.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=21065"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/testanonpertinente.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=21065"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/testanonpertinente.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=21065"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}